tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post4277612303250968103..comments2024-03-17T05:36:26.059-04:00Comments on Health Care Renewal: Bad Seed: the ADVANTAGE Trial of VioxxRoy M. Poses MDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00497209843184497847noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-92001073438256773882009-06-03T13:06:47.384-04:002009-06-03T13:06:47.384-04:00Merck has a history of creating with deliberate in...Merck has a history of creating with deliberate intent very toxic seeding trials. <br /><br />These are trials that are disguised as science-seeking peer-reviewed journals. <br /><br />In actuality, such clinical trials are merely marketing outlets to fulfill marketing objectives. <br /><br />Created by the marketing divisions of typically large pharmaceutical companies, this division handles Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664846592990249431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-55133717411721078262009-01-23T15:29:00.000-05:002009-01-23T15:29:00.000-05:00My name is Tina Harris and i would like to show yo...My name is Tina Harris and i would like to show you my personal experience with Vioxx.<BR/><BR/>I am 40 years old. Have been on Vioxx for 6 months now. I had quit taking Vioxx long before the recall because it was the only new med introduced into my regimen at the time the symptoms started. I was told that if I continued to take it, I would be let go from my job because of inability to perform Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-9780168150226671482008-12-23T10:40:00.000-05:002008-12-23T10:40:00.000-05:00Good post!ErwinVioxx articlesGood post!<BR/><BR/>Erwin<BR/><A HREF="http://www.yellowm8rix.com/subject/vioxx/" REL="nofollow">Vioxx articles</A>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567870885881340345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-57750731833016055062008-08-27T13:49:00.000-04:002008-08-27T13:49:00.000-04:00I am having trouble getting the ideologues here to...I am having trouble getting the ideologues here to see the difference between clinical care and research. <BR/><BR/>In research, outside of money for time and inconvenience, the benefit is for others. The research subject is a service provider, not a recipient of care. <BR/><BR/>The Hippocratic Oath applies to patients. <BR/><BR/>Here is a moral standard from the Nuremberg Principles. Would the Supremacy Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215810467361119756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-31826389597603989012008-08-27T13:01:00.000-04:002008-08-27T13:01:00.000-04:00Ulterior motives are numerous, normal, and almost ...<I>Ulterior motives are numerous, normal, and almost never stated. Promoting the career of the research, qualifying for a degree, making money, getting famous, attacking an enemy's theory. So hidden pretexts are the norm, and <B>not unethical</B> or aberrant.</I><BR/><BR/>Hidden pretexts are not unethical?<BR/><BR/>The oath of Hippocrates does not say "I will do what's best for my patient as longInformaticsMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994321680366572701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-76041467792579617012008-08-27T07:47:00.000-04:002008-08-27T07:47:00.000-04:00Dr. Poses: Double sincere apologies. I misspelled ...Dr. Poses: Double sincere apologies. I misspelled your name, and mistakenly alleged censorship. I commend your courage in allowing dissent from the extreme left wing ideologue claims here. Many other sites not only censor, but permanently ban the dissenter. <BR/><BR/>By definition, research is for the benefit of others. If the treatment is for the benefit of the subject, it is called clinical Supremacy Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215810467361119756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-55749461804359836142008-08-26T16:09:00.000-04:002008-08-26T16:09:00.000-04:00There seems to be some sort of misunderstanding. ...There seems to be some sort of misunderstanding. To my knowledge, I have not censored, that is, deleted or rejected, "Supremacy Claus'" comments.<BR/><BR/>I am having trouble understanding the rest of the his comment above. Maybe it was electronically garbled. Please consider re-posting it.<BR/><BR/>By the name, my name is spelled Poses, not "Poser."Roy M. Poses MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497209843184497847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-40794658445188195392008-08-26T13:15:00.000-04:002008-08-26T13:15:00.000-04:00Dr. Poser is censoring my comments. All research i...Dr. Poser is censoring my comments. All research is for the benefit of others, including the ulterior motives of the researcher. One does not put in the consent, the aim of this project is to qualify the researcher for a Ph.D, otherwise the researcher does not give a rat's ass about the findings. <BR/><BR/>The academic is a hypocrite.Supremacy Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215810467361119756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-82716019067981157442008-08-25T17:45:00.000-04:002008-08-25T17:45:00.000-04:00"No harm, no foul"? No way. This wasn't about re..."No harm, no foul"? No way. This wasn't about researchers doing good science and by the way advancing their careers, this was about pushing a product first and foremost, and doing so by deliberately concealing the fact that that was what it was about. Had people been honestly informed of the purpose (not the secondary benefit, the primary purpose) of this study, few would have enrolled in it.Lee Green MD MPHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18425312846006428087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-42042237757592944962008-08-21T18:15:00.000-04:002008-08-21T18:15:00.000-04:00"No harm was shown" - well, let's see... Let's tr..."No harm was shown" - well, let's see... Let's try a clinical epidemiologic approach - <BR/><BR/>It is pretty clear that Vioxx is not a better pain reliever than other non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, and has, at best, only slightly fewer gastrointestinal adverse reactions. (See this post: http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2007/03/drug-crazy.html) And it seems to cause an increased risk of Roy M. Poses MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00497209843184497847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-20930867913101082262008-08-21T12:33:00.000-04:002008-08-21T12:33:00.000-04:00No harm was shown.I am surprised that you criticiz...<I>No harm was shown.</I><BR/><BR/>I am surprised that you criticize Yale and the author of the Annals article for leftism, but take a leftist stance yourself (that the ends justifies the means if no harm was done).<BR/><BR/>Ed Scolnick, the head of R&D wrote that the study was a small marketing study and intellectually (i.e., scientifically) redundant. It was also deceptive of its InformaticsMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994321680366572701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-12038932023094141622008-08-21T06:38:00.000-04:002008-08-21T06:38:00.000-04:00Can we agree that some harm has to take place befo...Can we agree that some harm has to take place before punishments or before new regulations?<BR/><BR/>No harm was shown.Supremacy Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215810467361119756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-1554804922710528502008-08-20T14:57:00.000-04:002008-08-20T14:57:00.000-04:00No specific harm. No invalidating practice or meth...<I>No specific harm. No invalidating practice or method. No data to show biased, wrong conclusions.</I><BR/><BR/>While we can agree about the left wing bias and <A HREF="http://www.educause.net/ir/library/powerpoint/csd5020.pps" REL="nofollow">corruption</A> at Yale, I do not think that we can at all agree that, as you imply, the ends justifies the means.InformaticsMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994321680366572701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-25230459345130171382008-08-20T14:54:00.000-04:002008-08-20T14:54:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.InformaticsMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994321680366572701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9551150.post-62187576299977884922008-08-20T04:29:00.000-04:002008-08-20T04:29:00.000-04:00No specific harm. No invalidating practice or meth...No specific harm. No invalidating practice or method. No data to show biased, wrong conclusions.<BR/><BR/>The Left just picks on lawyer gotcha about a secondary advantage of a study. All studies have secondary advantages, especially by Left wing ideologues.<BR/><BR/>“I may be doing this study. However, my real aim is to get a promotion, to show my mother how smart I am, to practice writing grantsSupremacy Claushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03215810467361119756noreply@blogger.com